Milk Thistle

Discussion in 'UK Wine Forum' started by Jack Birchenoff, May 23, 2019.

  1. In light of recent comments by HRH which I came across, and my subsequent knee-jerk purchase of aforementioned herbal extract for the princely sum of £11...

    Has anyone had any experience of it? Does it work in reducing one's hangover after a night on the sauce?

    I, for one, can vouch that activated charcoal pills DO NOT.
     
  2. I have no idea if it works at all, but I do like a placebo. One instance of anecdata I've gathered using it and not using it on wine trips - especially weeks in Burgundy - suggests that it leaves me feeling less knackered. Nothing's stopping a hangover if you haven't hydrated (or titrated as the nurse at my recent old people's check up said) properly.
     
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  3. No idea if it works but I do take Milk Thistle regularly.

    A friend had non-alcohol fatty livers (he rarely consumes alcohol), Milk Thistle worked for him after taking it for 6 months, or maybe it was changed diet......
     
  4. There is very sound medical evidence for the efficacy of placebos even when they are known to be such by their consumer, which I suspect explains Colin's finding. On the other hand, if it works it works and in this case the feeling that it works is the same as it working.
    It does strike me that perhaps we shouldn't regularly willingly make ourselves vulnerable to the harm caused by alcohol rather than seek cures for it afterwards, but I haven't necessarily always heeded my own advice
     
  5. I agree wholeheartedly.

    Which is why I seek a cure for it beforehand.
     
  6. (I do actually agree, it's just hard to avoid at lengthy social events with friends who are enthusiastic imbibers).
     
  7. Yeah those bloody enthusiastic imbibers, not like us careful sippers
     
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  8. £11 for a placebo seems quite steep when you can get a free, homeopathic placebo from the tap in your kitchen!
     
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  9. I’m all for sipping - the downside I’d that I can sip for twelve or fourteen hours quite contentedly. ;)
     
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  10. I'm not sure if it can be accessed but we did have quite a thrash about this on the old forum.
     
  11. If you want them for a better price I used Simply Supplements for a long time.
     
  12. There is no consistent evidences supporting milk thistle.
    Some pills with a bit more evidences support:
    1. Ibuprofen before drinking can reduce tissue inflammation caused by aldehyde. After it serves as a safer pain killer
    2. Vit B6 and coenzyme q10 reduce headache. (but vit B6 is much cheaper)
     
  13. Don't drink enough to get a hangover in the first place? Otherwise... accept it! :)
     
  14. There is a real air of defeatism around here.

    If there is one thing the future leader of the conservative party has taught us, it is that cake can be both eaten and retained at the same time.
     
  15. Jancis takes it quite regularly apparently. And that's good enough for me.
    Also, some Italian hospitals (I have heard) give it to people suffering from mushroom poisoning in order to aid liver recovery.
    Not that it's any consolation for you Brits but Cardo Mariano is pretty cheap here in liquid form.
     
  16. Any NSAID taken prophylactically will help as they inhibit prostaglandin synthesis and help promote fluid retention as well as having analgesic effects. Best taken with a PPI such as omeprazole to limit stomach irritation from the NSAID as well as helping in their own right with acid production and reflux. Copious amounts of water with the alcohol helps greatly.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2019
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  17. I've had it a few times now and I am pretty convinced of its effectiveness even if only as a placebo. Doesn't remove a hangover but definitely takes the edge off one in this forumite's opinion.

    One odd side effect I have noticed is quite noticeable shakes for a couple of hours the morning after. I do not generally suffer from these.

    Reading the above back it does now occur to me that taking milkthistle may just be coincidental with my becoming an alcoholic.
     
  18. Being suggested by HRH is enough for me to boycott this even if it were free!
     
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  19. Only the best snake oil will do for me.
     
  20. Another HRH apparently uses homeopathy a lot. Also no evidence supports.
     
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  21. But - as we keep being told by the media and online - we only have a month of PPI left ... :D
     
  22. Andrew sort of beat me to it, but I must remember this the next time I get a phone call about PPI.
     
  23. Afaik proton pump inhibitors are not running out in August!
     

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